tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post1938574036694609754..comments2024-03-14T01:32:43.610-06:00Comments on The Geomblog: SODA vs STOC/FOCSSuresh Venkatasubramanianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-20701574165943545812007-07-25T17:05:00.000-06:002007-07-25T17:05:00.000-06:00You can also get the DBLP in XML format from http:...You can also get the DBLP in XML format from http://dblp.uni-trier.de/xml/<BR/><BR/>You can then simply open the XML file with MS Access, which does a great job in parsing and organizing the results in tables.<BR/><BR/>You can then run a simple selection query to get the data that you need and feed the titles of the papers to the Extractor that will return the citations for each paper.Panos Ipeirotishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15283752183704062501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-5786988043577030222007-07-24T18:26:00.000-06:002007-07-24T18:26:00.000-06:00Thanks for the link to the libra.msn.cn site. I di...Thanks for the link to the libra.msn.cn site. I didn't know about that.<BR/><BR/>As it turns out, the DBLP site where my script got all the ICML data from also has a large number of other conferences (including STOC and SODA) in the same format as the ICML conferences so porting the script should be very easy.<BR/><BR/>I should have a bit of time in the next couple of weeks to rerun my script on these other conferences. I may also try to set up a site to let people explore stats from DBLP.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/conf/indexa.html" REL="nofollow">DBLP Conferences Index</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-39022938536831807752007-07-23T16:36:00.000-06:002007-07-23T16:36:00.000-06:00Mechanical Turk<A HREF="http://www.mturk.com/mturk/welcome" REL="nofollow"> Mechanical Turk</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-21173785231745131012007-07-23T12:44:00.000-06:002007-07-23T12:44:00.000-06:00Please explain ?Please explain ?Suresh Venkatasubramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-65079322155811760262007-07-23T11:49:00.000-06:002007-07-23T11:49:00.000-06:00Surely this task is an ideal candidate for setting...Surely this task is an ideal candidate for setting up on Amazon's Mechanical Turk (or similar)? Paying 2c/citation count, say...<BR/><BR/>GrahamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-91709839925673781772007-07-19T10:49:00.000-06:002007-07-19T10:49:00.000-06:00This page (http://libra.msra.cn/conf_category_1.ht...This page (http://libra.msra.cn/conf_category_1.htm) gives the number of publications and citations for each of the conferences. I am not sure about the accuracy of the information given.Mitul Tiwarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13083079571729960860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-51462085561202655162007-07-18T21:54:00.000-06:002007-07-18T21:54:00.000-06:00Thanks for mentioning my Ruby script. Just a quick...Thanks for mentioning my Ruby script. Just a quick note: it doesn't actually do the plotting, it just creates a large comma-separated value file that can be easy imported into Excel or Keynote. The latter is the application I used to create the plots.<BR/><BR/>If you can point me to a web page or set of web pages that have a consistent format for conferences and paper titles it shouldn't be much work for me to modify my scripts for your purposes.<BR/><BR/>Regarding the earlier "voodoo ceremonies" comment: surely conferences and the material published by them are interesting objects of study in their own right? Asking questions about these objects is, at worst, a fun exercise driven by a sense of curiosity and, at best, may actually shed some light on discussions about trends in our disciplines. Hardly an obsession, I would think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-39329479164557989772007-07-18T21:11:00.000-06:002007-07-18T21:11:00.000-06:00Thanks for pulling the titles Suresh! If you get ...Thanks for pulling the titles Suresh! If you get enough interest, feel free to assign me a block of 20!Michael Mitzenmacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06738274256402616703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-67797570439665341782007-07-18T21:02:00.000-06:002007-07-18T21:02:00.000-06:00Anonymous #1 -- In my opinion, you're way off-base...Anonymous #1 -- <BR/><BR/>In my opinion, you're way off-base. <BR/><BR/><I> A community obsessed with rankings, stars, acceptance rates, citation counts, etc, is a community that had lost its way. </I> <BR/><BR/>I don't think we're obsessed. However, we have this information available. Trying to figure out what it means and how to best use it seems worthwhile.<BR/><BR/>Also, as a practical point, things like citation counts do matter. At the individual level, jobs and promotions depend on them. At the larger level of theory CS as a whole, funding depends on them. It might be nice in theory to live in a world where these things don't matter, but in practice, they do.<BR/><BR/><I> All these voodoo ceremonies will not hide the fact that the theory community had lost its connection with reality. </I> <BR/><BR/>I'm a firm proponent of applied theory, but even I think this statement is just wacky. On the applied theory side, just go look at any major networking, database, or security conference to see the impact of theory. On the less applied theory side, I can't deny the intellectual importance of say quantum computing and algorithmic mechanism design (just off the top of my head); their fundamental connection to reality seems unquestionable, and may in fact prove stronger than we can currently imagine. <BR/><BR/><I> I have a suggestion - why dont we abandon all these pagan rituals and return to the only important thing - that is - doing good research? </I> <BR/><BR/>I think you're limiting your thinking. Rankings, acceptance rates, citations counts and such are all about the meta-questions of how we judge and promote good research within our community. Surely, somebody's got to be paying attention to the questions of understanding and fostering the environment in which we do research? I understand if that's not your interest, but if anything, I think as a community theoretical CS has not paid enough attention to these issues.Michael Mitzenmacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06738274256402616703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-16843473504912025702007-07-18T20:28:00.000-06:002007-07-18T20:28:00.000-06:00I don't think it qualifies as an "obsession" to wo...I don't think it qualifies as an "obsession" to wonder what is the better conference. <BR/><BR/>And what field do you know that does not consider such issues? Biology, physics, and chemistry certainly do, even more so. Maybe math doesn't (I don't know), but math may have the same problems of disconnectedness as TCS, only more so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-25221194565170429992007-07-18T17:01:00.000-06:002007-07-18T17:01:00.000-06:00A community obsessed with rankings, stars, accepta...A community obsessed with rankings, stars, acceptance rates, citation counts, etc, is a community that had lost its way.<BR/><BR/>All these voodoo ceremonies will not hide the fact that the theory community had lost its connection with reality. A drift with its own conviction of its own importance, brainwashed with its own newspeak, it stands appalled as nobody else seems to recognize its own importance.<BR/><BR/>I have a suggestion - why dont we abandon all these pagan rituals and return to the only important thing - that is - doing good research?<BR/><BR/>And if think this is a loser's lament, well, think twice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com