tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post5331821637579283437..comments2024-03-14T01:32:43.610-06:00Comments on The Geomblog: SODA 2010Suresh Venkatasubramanianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-27074522347019257142009-09-30T20:45:46.223-06:002009-09-30T20:45:46.223-06:00Sorry, I misunderstood the directions.Sorry, I misunderstood the directions.Jelani Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216475103758212305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-88529237912038303842009-09-30T20:01:11.119-06:002009-09-30T20:01:11.119-06:00Was the "\baselineskip=9pt" supposed to ...Was the "\baselineskip=9pt" supposed to be there in the given template? It makes things look <i>really</i> squished.Jelani Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216475103758212305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-27026308634935193212009-09-17T10:32:06.446-06:002009-09-17T10:32:06.446-06:00this is a good point, and I'm not sure I know ...this is a good point, and I'm not sure I know the answer. it's an awkward situation, where the PC "reviewed" a version of the paper that isn't entirely detailed, and then a final version is published with unreviewed information.Suresh Venkatasubramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-79950457456649476132009-09-17T10:27:05.279-06:002009-09-17T10:27:05.279-06:00I thought the idea of short conference paper was t...I thought the idea of short conference paper was that conferences are only one round of review, so it is likely that there are mistakes, especially in the detailed proofs which reviewers often tend to overlook given the short time to review. So, one was supposed to submit a journal version with detailed and correct proofs. Also, now with 20 pages, and complete proofs, the rationale behind having a journal version is gone. And, I am wondering that those of us who do desire to have a journal version for some reason, how will they justify the resubmission of a full conference paper.Shipra Agrawalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13688590893784684669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-73191318573249349912009-09-09T13:56:47.071-06:002009-09-09T13:56:47.071-06:00Anon - it's probably not comprehensive, but yo...Anon - it's probably not comprehensive, but you can see your reviews by logging into the submission server.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-52755281055941050582009-09-09T09:12:49.824-06:002009-09-09T09:12:49.824-06:00it should be quite soon. we finished writing our d...it should be quite soon. we finished writing our discussion summaries yesterday.Suresh Venkatasubramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-89803004556713435692009-09-09T08:56:13.882-06:002009-09-09T08:56:13.882-06:00Does any of you know when the reviews will be sent...Does any of you know when the reviews will be sent? The notification email said early this week, but still no news... Some other deadlines are approaching...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-11350409849255668692009-09-07T21:59:13.671-06:002009-09-07T21:59:13.671-06:00My guess would be that if you do not have page lim...My guess would be that if you do not have page limit, the average would come to 20 pages per paper anyway. <br /><br />In the long run, this might pave the way to longer conference submissions, ....<br /><br />... and that would lead to short papers being discriminated against, since they are "light" compared to long and painful papers. That would be sad. The rapture would follow shortly afterwards. We are all doomed - just because the SODA PC wanted to play with the page limit...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-45423880502753579002009-09-07T14:01:39.662-06:002009-09-07T14:01:39.662-06:00The move to longer papers was motivated by the fol...The move to longer papers was motivated by the following logic (which others have mentioned): <br />now that we have electronic proceedings, why should authors have to agonize about what to<br />leave out of the conference paper ? Full proofs are supposed to be in the submission anyway, so there is no point forcing authors to waste all that effort.<br /><br />Why 20 pages then ? SIAM wanted to put some reasonable upper limit on the length of papers. There is some per-page post-processing that takes place and associated costs. <br /><br />Regarding the format and how the proceedings are distributed, I don't know that it will be any different from '09 ... one change at a time.Moses Charikarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-57083711480619385492009-09-07T11:01:19.394-06:002009-09-07T11:01:19.394-06:00Lets see...
Old SODA ppaer -
proceedings version:...Lets see...<br />Old SODA ppaer - <br />proceedings version: 9 pages<br />one column, 10pt: 11 pages<br />11pt: 13 pages<br />12pt: 14 pages.<br />so I was wrong... Good to know.<br />So 20 pages, 11pt is roughly 14-15 pages in the old format.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-71836990769173274722009-09-07T10:10:06.722-06:002009-09-07T10:10:06.722-06:0020 pages in 11pt is a lot more than 10 pages in 10...20 pages in 11pt is a lot more than 10 pages in 10pt. the latter generally corresponds to about 14 pages in 11pt.Suresh Venkatasubramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-55540397205987352352009-09-07T09:11:33.047-06:002009-09-07T09:11:33.047-06:001. There is no such thing as arxiv format - they a...1. There is no such thing as arxiv format - they accept anything that goes through latex.<br /><br />2. Why not use some journal format like SICOMP or TALG?<br /><br />3. In any cace, the font should be at least 11pt...<br /><br />4. If you take (3) into account 20 pages in nice format is essentially equivalent to 10 pages in the old format.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-9271790607353857822009-09-07T06:16:06.131-06:002009-09-07T06:16:06.131-06:00So, was the point of doubling the page limit not t...So, was the point of doubling the page limit not to double the amount of text we could fit in our papers? (And if so, then shouldn't we not change the formatting?)Curiousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-27237244865402022312009-09-06T23:44:41.284-06:002009-09-06T23:44:41.284-06:00Ah good point. Which brings up an interesting ques...Ah good point. Which brings up an interesting question. <br /><br />what's your favorite format ? or the one you'd like to use for SODA ? maybe we can whisper something into the ear of someone at SIAM.<br /><br />Personally, I don't mind the arxiv format at all.Suresh Venkatasubramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-69596631111706293022009-09-06T23:40:58.258-06:002009-09-06T23:40:58.258-06:00SODA has never required the fugbuttly ACM/Sheridan...SODA has never required the fugbuttly ACM/Sheridan format. ACM doesn't publish SODA proceedings; SIAM does. SIAM has its own slightly less ugly two-column format (http://www.siam.org/tex/books/soda2e.all).<br /><br />The ONLY reason we use a two-column proceedings format is to squeeze more test onto the same mass of cellulose. I really hope that without cellulose, we can finally switch to a publication format that's actually readable.JeffEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17633745186684887140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-56296686770153234222009-09-06T08:36:33.818-06:002009-09-06T08:36:33.818-06:00" it tells you how many reviews you've pu..." it tells you how many reviews you've put in compared to the average."<br /><br />I was always curious to see this distribution of submitted reviews over time. Too bad that it is not included in the usual statistics given during the lunch-hour business meeting :-)Panos Ipeirotishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15283752183704062501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-51982567650730393382009-09-05T22:31:28.662-06:002009-09-05T22:31:28.662-06:00I have to say I'm tempted just to bring a USB ...I have to say I'm tempted just to bring a USB stick over and transfer over a file-list for anyone who doesn't have a CD player. Although I suspect (like last year) SIAM will merely place all papers online to be snarfed by DownThemAll !Suresh Venkatasubramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-32656460712260719972009-09-05T18:55:46.150-06:002009-09-05T18:55:46.150-06:00that is what happened last timethat is what happened last timeSuresh Venkatasubramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-36907556166299455332009-09-05T18:52:22.103-06:002009-09-05T18:52:22.103-06:00Why do the proceedings need to be "distribute...Why do the proceedings need to be "distributed"? Why can't they just be posted on the SODA website?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-80969698018992493102009-09-05T14:26:15.641-06:002009-09-05T14:26:15.641-06:00I'd like LNCS format (even if that causes the ...I'd like LNCS format (even if that causes the total amount of text available within the 20 pages) for the selfish reason that a single column on a small page size with wide margins will work better on electronic text readers such as the Kindle. But I'd be surprised if we get anything better than the ugly two-column thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-91942568444409045122009-09-05T13:18:26.153-06:002009-09-05T13:18:26.153-06:00Piotr: both good questions, to which I don't k...Piotr: both good questions, to which I don't know the answer:<br /><br />whether there will any kind of printed proceedings - maybe ? given the ACM DL, I'm less and less interested in this. <br /><br />How the proceedings will be delivered ? it's a good question. At most DB conferences now, papers are distributed on USB key: not as cheap as a CD, but takes care of your problem (and the USB key is reusable !)Suresh Venkatasubramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898357513326041822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-45612421365525584592009-09-05T12:18:14.756-06:002009-09-05T12:18:14.756-06:00Two questions:
- will there be any paper proceed...Two questions: <br /><br />- will there be any paper proceedings at all (e.g., for the libraries) ? not that i am missing "the big purple brick" - just asking.<br /><br />- how will the proceedings be distributed ? CDs are not bad, but many laptops (including mine) do not have CD drives.Piotrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-1421817078625064172009-09-05T11:23:08.075-06:002009-09-05T11:23:08.075-06:00Once proceeding papers will be full papers, will j...Once proceeding papers will be full papers, will journals accept such papers? (Because the full version has been published.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6555947.post-57523087772023144752009-09-05T03:57:34.870-06:002009-09-05T03:57:34.870-06:00Why 20 pages? Why have any page limit at all? Wond...Why 20 pages? Why have any page limit at all? Wondering. --SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com