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Tuesday, July 26, 2005
Joseph Heller would be proud
Heard in passing: a student from a country that is, to put it delicately, not part of the US Axis of Friendship, decides to hold off on returning home for a visit because of fears that he will not be allowed back in the US. He finally returns, only to find that the US Consulate views his long absence from home as a sign that he is planning to emigrate to the US, and thus denies him a visa to return.
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And here is the part that I can't understand: assuming these are PhD students, US may actually want them to stay here to teach and do research, but the embassy sometimes makes sure they declare that they do not intend to get a job in the US before they can come back to continue their PhD... I really have no idea how I should have answered that question back then. I blame my then poor (and still poor) English comprehension.
ReplyDeletePosted by Anonymous
From what I was told a long time ago, the State Department is required to ask F-1 applicants if they intend to live in the US, because of Congressional mandate. This is confusing, but not overly so, if you recognize that the F-1 visa is given for studies, and there are other visas to actually work in the US.
ReplyDeleteI doubt any university cares whether a graduating Ph.D works in the US...
Posted by Suresh
It always confuses me what the US want. As a student from mainland China, I know a lot of suffering from visa stuffs about all my classmates heading for US.
ReplyDeleteJust as mentioned above, the US consulate asks you whether you will stay in US after graduation. What are they expecting? How would you promising something 4 or 5 years later in the future? Frankly, I would faithfull answer: "I dont know". But all my classmates said they will come back to China after study. They are forced to lie, because they never know what they will do after years!
Put it in other way, if US does not want those students working in the States, just denies any working visas LATER. Why stop them in the first place with non-sense reasons?
I do not understand.
Posted by Yajun
Yajun, perhaps this will help explain:
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Posted by Anon
Excuse me for my ignorance, but can someone tell me who is Joseph Heller ?
ReplyDeletePosted by Anonymous
The author of Catch 22. The book is funny but somewhat too long. Catch 22 is about the situation where pilots in WW II can not avoid flying because of insanity reaons, since only insane person would like to fly an airplane while somebody is trying to shoot you down. And thus, their insanity is in fact a proof of their sanity. A somewhat simple diagonalization argument... ;)
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